Length: 242mm
Width: 176mm Height:58mm Weight: 470g The B17 and B17 S Aged are the new versions of our flagship models. The B17 has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalogue. Comfortable from day 1 thanks to the softer leather, the B17 and B17 S Aged are ideal for sports touring, trekking and atb use.
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I am tentative in my enthusiasm for I have only ridden my new B17S Aged twice at this point, BUT.....at first blush, I may have just saved my cycling life. After three years of sit bone issues that have only become worse and worse with each year, the thought of sitting on the seat this Spring was sitting heavy on me. Guess it gets old to ride all day and think about nothing other than how much pain you are in - especially when your only cycling goal is to ride as long, as far, as adventurously in a day as your mind and body will allow. After trying at least four saddles during the 2010 riding season, (and complaining to whomever would listen at my local bike shop every time I entered the store), I finally decided to break the barrier and try a Brooks. The barrier in my case wasn't actually financial (what's another chunk of coin when you have already wasted over $600 US on saddles that only exacerbated the problem?) The barrier in my case was psychological. When your sit bones are so sore that it takes a week to recover from each full day of riding - just looking at that firm, shiny surface incites complete terror. BUT...I have started with the cheater model - the AGED B17S - and so far, it is true - COMFORT FROM DAY ONE! AND, I can actually still sit on a hard chair after I ride. So....we'll see how it goes. I admit I still have some adjusting to do to get fully comfy in the saddle. In part this is due to having my bottom highly padded up to protect the sit bones and having extraneous bulk in the middle of the saddle. You get the picture. BUT, if I can ride this saddle comfortably and am actually able to continue cycling (I have been long distance riding for more than 20 years and never had any problems until I started riding road bike seats) then this saddle will be the equivalent of a bloody miracle!
More of a general comment on the service received concerning a new saddle that turned out to be defective - the problem was resolved extremely well by Brooks who definitely went "above and beyond" duty's call. Gold Standard! The replacement saddle has had its maiden run and is perfect. Very satisified.
I can't praise brooks enough. Some people talk about the break in period, some talk about the saddle making them want to ride more. I'm both of those people. The first time I used my b17, I was amazed, and wanting to break it in more gets me to ride more. I love this saddle. Thank you brooks.
When the leather cracked on the Brooks B17 seat on my 1943 BSA Airborne Folding Bicycle I was prepared to carve a wooden mould from the original leather and use that to shape a new piece of Oak sole leather for it. To my surprise and considerable satisfaction I found that a) you're still in business, and b) you still have the model I needed in production. My replacement B17 recieves the proper attention that the original should have had - an occasional wipe with saddle soap and a bi-annual brush with neat's-foot oil, which should massively prolong its' working life, even under the heavy use I put to it - over 50 miles/week on the road.
I haven't been able to ride on a saddle for many years due to a medical condition that has finally been fixed. During that time I tried the most expensive drop nose, wide cutout, carbon, fancy wancy saddles and they all hurt and kept on hurting. As I've just joined the Fixie fashion mob and since the supplied saddle was a rather pretty example of sitting on a broken brick, I thought I'd grace the bike with what it deserved - a proper leather saddle. I assumed that derrieres haven't changed much in 100 years, so today I received my Brooks B17 STD Honey and it certainly is a honey. Why I ever thought that plastic, foam and vinyl was better than leather I'll never know and I'll never make that mistake again. They say you have to break these saddles in. Well it's going to be seductively comfortable then, because today I rode for an hour and it was heavenly. It's manufactured - not stitched together in a sweat shop in a back alley. You just have to open the box to see that this saddle will last. I loved the presentation and I love the saddle. Pass on my thanks to the production team. Thanks to their efforts there are a lot of behinds saying thank you in the nicest possible way. Go Brooks!
I've been riding on a Brooks saddle since I appropriated my dad's (an expat-Englishman) bike as a teenager over thirty years ago. Our aluminium touring tandem has always been equipped with a Brooks B17 up front and my 26 year old Miyata touring single now sports a brand new Team Pro copper saddle. Both are great saddles and I've found both comfortable right from the start, even the much stiffer Team Pro on my now much older posterior. A firm saddle is the best present you can give to your sit bones.
I have been a commuter for several years now aboard a Devinci Monaco "hybrid" I have gone thru all the expensive perches that I can bear to sit upon. 2years ago I purchased a B17 standard. This saddle has proven itself to be head and shoulders above all contenders in my humble opinion. At the risk of sounding pedantic, I will say that I will NEVER sit on any other brand of saddle henceforth. Nothing else can compare to my B17. And I have tried 'em all! Excellent work and I would gladly pay double to have this saddle on my bike! Keep up the fantastic work Brooks, you have a customer for life in me.
I have ridden on your B17 Special saddle for a month and now I cannot bear to ride on any other saddle. I have no choice but to replace the remaining four non-Brooks saddles, which is going to cost me a pretty penny! Curse you, sir, for your infernally comfortable products!
B17 is the best saddle I ever had. I bought few saddles before (different gel, air ventilation ... ). Most shops in Germany sell a lot of gel stuff but nobody recommended me leather saddles. Some shops even advised me against. My B17 was comfortable from start on. I regret I didn't trust you before. Now I'm driving often longer distance without pain.
Q > How do I determine if I need the S model? A > "S" stands for short, so normally these saddles are for ladies.
I'm in love with Brooks saddles. I first had a B17 aged and then upgraded with swift chrome and titanium my two bikes. I try to convince my girlfriend to get one, but she is scared because "it's hard"! Anyway, I was wondering does women really need Short saddle? I suppose it's larger in the middle, but I found my regular B17 already quite large... I actually wanted to propose her the narrow version, for her racing bike (also for the aesthetic ;) ). Could you advise me on this point please? Thx!
answer - Not necessarily! What is important here is rider size. Please visit a Brooks Dealer of Excellence to find out more.
...I ride a 70's Schwinn Cruiser to the beach, to surf, regularly. It's only a six mile round-trip, but the usual, big, fat, foam-padded cruiser seats can get pretty uncomfortable on a hot day. I've always admired the styling of Brook's saddles, my brother-in-law had one, but never thought the expense was worth it. All I can say is, Wow!, was I wrong! Not only does my cruiser stand out in a town chock-full of classic bikes, but it's more comfortable than I'd ever imagined. I've only put about thirty miles on it, and it's already like sitting on a cloud. Cheers! Brook's. I'd like to say that I'll buy another, but I think this one's gonna last forever...
Q > I'm curious, why do only the aged saddles come with pre-punched holes for laces? Is it because the softer leather leads to earlier flattening of the saddle requiring the laces to be tightened? Also, if my B66 should ever get to that point, would Brooks be able punch the holes? I could do it myself but the result would undoubtedly be less impressive.
A > Yes, we do it on the Aged and Imperial because they have a weaker structure. Our other saddles occasionally would flatten, but that thakes quite some time and lack of care.
Short and sweet, I never think about my saddle when I'm ridding, it's that comfortable. I have a B-17 on my Peugeot, a Flyer on my 3 speed Club bike and a Swift on my Raleigh Clubman. Excellent workmanship and design!
Hi I recently purchased a B17 special (the brompton version, brown top, copper rivets, standard black frame) I have only put 70 kms and it's by far the most confortable saddle I have riden, by far much much more than my previos gel saddles (one with ventilation) they were fine for a few kms then it's was a pain in the butt, literality. Q: My concern is only one, I sweat a lot from the buttocks and I can't always wear padded short, which helps a lot with this matter, so when i use jeans sweat stays there in touch with the saddle, and leaving a very embarassing trace in my jeans. Would this sweat damage severly the saddle eventualy? Because I noticed in some parts of the saddle it has become darker just like a few spots, and in the back part has a little brighter spot as if the color has fell off.
answer - Sweat will not damage your saddle!
Q > Do the aged saddles need proofide? R > Not really, but if you want to protect the saddle you can apply some to the underside. Do not put it on the top, though!
Q > Is there a special reason why the aged saddles don't come in different colors?
A > Yes, beacause Aged Saddles simply have no artificial colour. They just get the natural colour of the wood and other vegetable substances used in the tanning.
Q >>> Will the B17 Special mount directly to a Crank Brothers Joplin Seatpost? I am in need of a GOOD saddle and hear rave reviews about your products. I ride an all mountain type of bike. Through wet and mud and muck. Is this a good product for its intended use? Thank you. Derek Johnson
A >>> All our saddles have standard 7 mm rails, so it should work!
Hi, I was always very content with my Brooks which I bought from a friend about ten Years ago until this morning on my way to work through a snowstorm the Metal under the leather cover broke. Can you repair it?
answer - All Brooks saddles may be repaired, please visit the Getting in Touch section of this website!
Q > Your saddles (B-17 Ti, standard and Special) are on each of my three road bikes and are exceptionally comfortable. The Special is around seven years old and has about 7000 miles. I use Brooks Proofide three or four times a year, and seldom is the saddles wet, however the leather is cracking a good bit around the back upper most four rivets. Is this detrimental to the life/quality of the saddle? Is it repairable?
A > Leather is subject to detriment, as any other material. This depends on the climate and use. Unfortunately we can only repair the metal parts...
hi I recently bought a shwinn super sport from 1972 it had a brooks saddle that is in a 8/10 condition it is a wonderful saddle I can see the quality in your crews craftmanship I'm planning on buying a new one what do you guys recommend? I usually ride in the rain
A> I recommend send a mail to info@brooksengland.com or visiting our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/Brooks.England
I am having a problem with my B17 ladies saddle in so much as it stains my clothing. I have used the proofhide on it from time to time, but I think the black colour must come out of it as the seat of my trousers, after riding the bike for a while, turns grey. I have had the saddle for 3 years now and do not want to change it as I have broken it in nicely, but do need a solution. Do you have one? (apart from wearing black trousers all the time!!!)
A> All leather saddles (including the ones made by our competitors) stain light clothing over time. The best solution is to use a saddle cover when wearing light trousers. This is also the reason that cycling shorts traditionally are black, btw.
Question: Okay, dummy that I am I got all slap happy with the Proofide on the TOP of my AGED B17S BEFORE reading the directions (surely I can't be the only idiot who has done this....??). What will happen now - something terrible? Will it flatten into a pancake? Turn into a waffle? Disappear like one of the witches? Please tell me I haven't ruined it already. I am excited beyond belief at this point with the two test rides I have done that I can't bear the thought of having ruined my beautiful new seat. Thanks! Jacki
A> chances are you have not ruined your saddle, unless you used the entire can. You absolutely may apply Proofide to the top of your saddle, but usually wait until the saddle has had some wear before doing so, and apply sparingly.
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