Length: 242mm Width: 176mm Height:86mm
Weight: 800g The Flyer and its ladies model Flyer S are classically sprung saddles for long distance trekking and touring. It is directly descending from the B66 Champion, first featured in the 1927 catalogue. Sharing the same leather tops of the B17 models, they combine the comfort of these popular models with the extra suspension granted by two rear springs. Both are available with tubular steel rivets or with hand hammered copper rivets under the names of Flyer Special and Flyer S Special.
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Last summer I was preparing my first cycle holiday camping trip. And I rebuild a MTB frame for this. I acquired this saddle cheaply from a friend who worked at a local bike shop. Although “slightly” used...a couple of thousand miles it still looked good. We had the same body type and length 1.80 mtr so I took a chance. The first week of the trip the weather took a turn for the worse. The load I was hauling on the bike and the BOB yak was way too much. All the while I was still breaking in the saddle. But the leather “Breathes” and keeps cooler. In the second week of riding I finally found a bike shop that had proof ride grease from Brooks. After that there was no problem at all anymore. Don’t be cheap with that stuff at first. The saddle quickly became better adjusted after that. I credit this saddle for helping me complete my first trip. It made me think different about this critical part of my Cycle And brooks saddles will be part my future projects
More of a general comment on the service received concerning a new saddle that turned out to be defective - the problem was resolved extremely well by Brooks who definitely went "above and beyond" duty's call. Gold Standard! The replacement saddle has had its maiden run and is perfect. Very satisified.
I've been riding on a Brooks saddle since I appropriated my dad's (an expat-Englishman) bike as a teenager over thirty years ago. Our aluminium touring tandem has always been equipped with a Brooks B17 up front and my 26 year old Miyata touring single now sports a brand new Team Pro copper saddle. Both are great saddles and I've found both comfortable right from the start, even the much stiffer Team Pro on my now much older posterior. A firm saddle is the best present you can give to your sit bones.
I found myself getting a little fatigued, not sore exactly, but kind of 'tired of sitting' on my B17 after about 150 - 200km on a ride. An acquaintance suggested trying a Flyer Special before attempting longer distances. What a revelation! I thought the B17 Standard was a very comfortable saddle but the Flyer Special raises the bar for really long days. On an Aluminium framed touring bike - No! the purists cry - it takes away the zing/buzz transmitted from the frame via the seat post and the springs introduce just enough 'give' to make one forget the dreadful condition of so many of our country lanes these days. You notice the springs for the first 5 minutes or so of a ride and then you simply forget they are there and enjoy your day's cycling.
For years i have been riding a Gazelle Rocca with a SR gelpacked saddle. It was such a bad experience. Each time i had to stop after 45 minutes or so to make the numb feeling or even sometimes pain in my rear end go away. I sort of got used to it, ride for three quarters of an hour and without looking at the clock I would stop and take a rest. A short while ago I bought a new bike, the Sparta Inca model 2009 at J. Bos rijwielhandel in Deventer and it came with yet another SR saddle on it. Some nice lettering on it informing me of a vacuum and gel build up that was somehow worked into the saddle. I made my first 40 km ride on it, not stopping after 45 minutes because i figured it would be new and i would have to get used to it, but when i got home I had a terrible pain in my behind that wouldn't go away for two days. Then i remembered about my wife's Flyer, how she uses it for decades now and even though she isn't a fanatic where biking is concerned she never got rid of the saddle and she is using it on her third bike now. I read all I could find on the net about the Flyer saddle and when I walked into the bikeshop they had just one there, a black one. It is called the Champion Flyer and i understand why. From the first minutes i sat on it while I was riding home it felt like it is right! This is what a saddle is supposed to be like. I am still breaking it in and as I read about it and hear others talk about it it is even better when broken in. Somehow that is impossible as it is so perfect, my behind is in heaven already, no pain, no distress, smooth and fitting like a glove. It truly is the best saddle i ever sat on and I even enjoy rubbing it with proofide and such, it might be the best € 79,95 i ever spent on a bike! I wish i could chip my saddle so if it gets stolen it could somehow be traced and I would be able to get it back. It would be worth the money as there is no part as individually formed and shaped after me on my bike.
I have ridden on your B17 Special saddle for a month and now I cannot bear to ride on any other saddle. I have no choice but to replace the remaining four non-Brooks saddles, which is going to cost me a pretty penny! Curse you, sir, for your infernally comfortable products!
Q > How do I determine if I need the S model? A > "S" stands for short, so normally these saddles are for ladies.
I have just purchased my first Brooks saddle; a Classic Flyer. I am extremely satisfied at the level of comfort, and the classic appreance, it gives my bike. My appreciation for for its workmanship now goes far beyond the asthetics and is realized each time I mount this most comfortable and supportive new addition to my bicycle. I will be adding another Brooks to my backup bike very shortly.
I ordered a Flyer S and was wondering whether I'd try to put vent holes in it like those in my B17S. When I received my Flyer S I was quite surprised that it already had vent holes in it. Every place I've read anything about the Flyer S stated that it didn't have vent holes. I'm quite pleased not to have to make them myself. Is my new saddle an irregular? Is it new that the Flyer S comes with vent holes? Thanks for making such great saddles. I have 2 B67S, 1 B17S and a Champion Flyer S.
I have ridden leather saddles since I was a high school student in the late 1970's. My meager allowance at the time forced me to retrofit my older sister's JC Penney ten-speed with swapped-in parts from the town dump in Gresham, Oregon. Consisting mostly of old cars, the dump also kept two barrels of bike parts in the back and the manager allowed me to rummage through them periodically. In the barrel one day, I found an old, weather-beaten Brooks saddle. I took it home for the grand sum of fifty cents, cleaned it off with a wire brush and applied some of my mom's Mink Oil to soften it up. A few days later I put it on my bike and was surprised at how confortable it was! I scavenged the dump regularly until I went away to college and came up with two more leather saddles, which I put away for future use; these saw me through college and graduate studies. Years later, I am now a bicycle mechanic in Portland, Oregon. Every one of my three bicycles is outfitted with a Brooks leather saddle (a road bike and a citybike both use B17 S; the folder has a B67 S). Nicest of all has been the opportunity to get family members to try and switch to Brooks saddles. My partner, who had ridden vinyl saddles her whole life and found them lacking, tried a B67 S this year. On a recent group ride of 30 miles, she exulted, "Finally, this is the right saddle for me! We've gone thirty miles and my butt doesn't hurt!" My sister had joined us on the same ride and told me afterwards that she needed to find another saddle if she was to go on these longer rides with us in the future. I saved up and bought her a B67 S for her bike. Word is still out but I expect to hear a positive report soon. Thank you for making some of the most comfortable saddles ever. Please don't stop. Beth Hamon Portland, Oregon. USA
I tried a Conquest once, but found it too narrow and rounded. A friend of mine was very happy of his B17, but I wanted a sprung saddle. I finally decided to go for the Flyer, which I've been told is sllightly wider and flater than a Conquest, and must say that this is the best choice for my long distance touring bicycle. It took only a couple of weeks to shape to my bum. I've now ridden over 3000 km on it and look forward to the my 1500 km trip in Brazil next summer. Bernt, Munich - Germany
I'm in love with Brooks saddles. I first had a B17 aged and then upgraded with swift chrome and titanium my two bikes. I try to convince my girlfriend to get one, but she is scared because "it's hard"! Anyway, I was wondering does women really need Short saddle? I suppose it's larger in the middle, but I found my regular B17 already quite large... I actually wanted to propose her the narrow version, for her racing bike (also for the aesthetic ;) ). Could you advise me on this point please? Thx!
answer - Not necessarily! What is important here is rider size. Please visit a Brooks Dealer of Excellence to find out more.
Short and sweet, I never think about my saddle when I'm ridding, it's that comfortable. I have a B-17 on my Peugeot, a Flyer on my 3 speed Club bike and a Swift on my Raleigh Clubman. Excellent workmanship and design!
Hi, I was always very content with my Brooks which I bought from a friend about ten Years ago until this morning on my way to work through a snowstorm the Metal under the leather cover broke. Can you repair it?
answer - All Brooks saddles may be repaired, please visit the Getting in Touch section of this website!
I am having a problem with my B17 ladies saddle in so much as it stains my clothing. I have used the proofhide on it from time to time, but I think the black colour must come out of it as the seat of my trousers, after riding the bike for a while, turns grey. I have had the saddle for 3 years now and do not want to change it as I have broken it in nicely, but do need a solution. Do you have one? (apart from wearing black trousers all the time!!!)
A> All leather saddles (including the ones made by our competitors) stain light clothing over time. The best solution is to use a saddle cover when wearing light trousers. This is also the reason that cycling shorts traditionally are black, btw.
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